Comments on: Gifts from the creative Gods http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/04/a/ Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:42:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Tom Monahan http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/04/a/#comment-122 Sun, 10 Dec 2006 08:58:48 +0000 http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/04/a/#comment-122 Thanks for this story, Laura. I can see why you felt a little disappointment re the “crying shoulder” story. But, hey, they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Why can’t this song still have a more tender meaning for you? I often hear song writers say this or that isn't what they meant, when people interpret their lyrics a certain way. Some writer care about exact interpretations, some are open to whatever. But the message received is the message received. Does it matter? We hear the Matchbox Twenty song 3AM, or see the video of Rob Thomas standing out in the night time rain emoting "It's 3AM, I must be lonely." It’s easy to assume it’s the angst of lost love singing. Did you know the song was written about his mom’s dealing with chemotherapy? Does it really matter what inspires or what's taken away? One instance is a trivial moment coming off as touching, the other is a life and death situation appearing to be the trials of youth. The gifts from the creative Gods come in many ways. To both the creative individual and to those who decipher their creations. Thanks for this story, Laura. I can see why you felt a little disappointment re the “crying shoulder” story. But, hey, they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Why can’t this song still have a more tender meaning for you?

I often hear song writers say this or that isn’t what they meant, when people interpret their lyrics a certain way. Some writer care about exact interpretations, some are open to whatever. But the message received is the message received. Does it matter?

We hear the Matchbox Twenty song 3AM, or see the video of Rob Thomas standing out in the night time rain emoting “It’s 3AM, I must be lonely.” It’s easy to assume it’s the angst of lost love singing. Did you know the song was written about his mom’s dealing with chemotherapy?

Does it really matter what inspires or what’s taken away? One instance is a trivial moment coming off as touching, the other is a life and death situation appearing to be the trials of youth. The gifts from the creative Gods come in many ways. To both the creative individual and to those who decipher their creations.

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by: Laura http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/04/a/#comment-74 Thu, 07 Dec 2006 22:09:39 +0000 http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/04/a/#comment-74 I was at a luncheon today for some pro-bono work I did, and Edwin McCain was a surprise guest. He sang his once popular hit, "I'll be." He shared with everyone his inspiration for writing this love song. He was sitting at a bar, when he overheard a conversation between this young college babe and this obviously older man. The older gentleman was probing her with questions and she seemed completely uninterested. Until she began to complain about her job, her classes and life in general. That's when the older man said, "I'll be your cryin' shoulder." At that very moment, Edwin grabbed a pen and wrote it down on a napkin. Then he rushed out to his mom's VW parked outside and wrote the rest of the song. You know, it's actually kind of disturbing to hear this. Considering how many couples have probably chosen this for their wedding song. All this time I thought it was a beautiful love song he wrote for someone special in his life - when in reality it's about two strangers in a bar. I was at a luncheon today for some pro-bono work I did, and Edwin McCain was a surprise guest. He sang his once popular hit, “I’ll be.” He shared with everyone his inspiration for writing this love song. He was sitting at a bar, when he overheard a conversation between this young college babe and this obviously older man. The older gentleman was probing her with questions and she seemed completely uninterested. Until she began to complain about her job, her classes and life in general. That’s when the older man said, “I’ll be your cryin’ shoulder.” At that very moment, Edwin grabbed a pen and wrote it down on a napkin. Then he rushed out to his mom’s VW parked outside and wrote the rest of the song. You know, it’s actually kind of disturbing to hear this. Considering how many couples have probably chosen this for their wedding song. All this time I thought it was a beautiful love song he wrote for someone special in his life - when in reality it’s about two strangers in a bar.

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by: overcaffeinatedkatie http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/04/a/#comment-70 Thu, 07 Dec 2006 15:28:23 +0000 http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/04/a/#comment-70 Great post! Here's a link to some interesting background on Dylan lyrics...http://dylanchords.info/. Effective creative resonates because it sounds/looks/reads the way people really talk/view/sound. Observation is absolutely key. Great post! Here’s a link to some interesting background on Dylan lyrics…http://dylanchords.info/.

Effective creative resonates because it sounds/looks/reads the way people really talk/view/sound. Observation is absolutely key.

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by: Tom Monahan http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/04/a/#comment-68 Wed, 06 Dec 2006 21:59:46 +0000 http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/04/a/#comment-68 That would be the scariest movie ever! That would be the scariest movie ever!

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by: Ernie Schenck http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/04/a/#comment-67 Wed, 06 Dec 2006 20:54:01 +0000 http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/04/a/#comment-67 I'm thinking there's this little movie theater out there somewhere. Only instead of movies, this theater plays back all the stuff that you never saw, that you never heard, that you never felt or touched. All the little Smokey Robinson moments and Mark Knoepfler moments that just went sailing right over your head because you weren't paying attention. Great post. I’m thinking there’s this little movie theater out there somewhere. Only instead of movies, this theater plays back all the stuff that you never saw, that you never heard, that you never felt or touched. All the little Smokey Robinson moments and Mark Knoepfler moments that just went sailing right over your head because you weren’t paying attention. Great post.

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by: nancy http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/04/a/#comment-64 Wed, 06 Dec 2006 13:58:27 +0000 http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/04/a/#comment-64 "Hey, do you think these appliance movers sued for royalities?" "it's about time they got some recognition, isn't it? Or a byline. It's a great line. As it is, they never play Twistin by the Pool on the radio station anymore, but I'm tired of Far Away. As for missing creative gifts...that's falsely phrased: waiting in line for them is more like it, then falling asleep cause you weren't paying attention. Okay, so I'm the kind of girl who thinks radio waves are permeating my skull all the time, and they wake me up on purpose when the Counting Crows are seeing Round Here in the middle of the night. You can call that luck with whatever kind of twist. Unfortunately, in my interactive and design study, I took all the highest level idea courses before they even let me near business ethics. “Hey, do you think these appliance movers sued for royalities?”

“it’s about time they got some recognition, isn’t it? Or a byline. It’s a great line. As it is, they never play Twistin by the Pool on the radio station anymore, but I’m tired of Far Away.

As for missing creative gifts…that’s falsely phrased: waiting in line for them is more like it, then falling asleep cause you weren’t paying attention. Okay, so I’m the kind of girl who thinks radio waves are permeating my skull all the time, and they wake me up on purpose when the Counting Crows are seeing Round Here in the middle of the night. You can call that luck with whatever kind of twist.

Unfortunately, in my interactive and design study, I took all the highest level idea courses before they even let me near business ethics.

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by: Tom Monahan http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/04/a/#comment-63 Wed, 06 Dec 2006 13:56:18 +0000 http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/04/a/#comment-63 You are absolutely right, Simon. There are many aspects of creative thinking. Being open to the “moment of gift“ is only part of it. Follow through is certainly another. I actually have a lot more examples of how songs were born, as I’m compiling material for a book. I hope I don’t mess up on that follow through part. One example of follow through is with Steven Tyler of Aerosmith on his song "Janies got a gun." According to Tyler he had the phrase and the musical hook only, for about a year, continually rolling it around in his head, until he saw a news article about child abuse. He then knew why Janie had the gun, and went on to finish the song. One of the differences between pop song writers and business people is that they can take their time in the process. But the “being open to the gifts” part is exactly the same. For instance, most business people hate focus groups for how they so often kill ideas. When I was in a particularly open-minded state a few years back I sat behind the one-way mirror, watched one of my babies get pulverized, but got a great idea from one of the difficult people, and idea that took the project in a much better direction. In the Janie case Tyler still had to be open to the seemingly random inspiration. He could have read the article with a less open idea receptor and missed an opportunity to complete a fairly powerful song. In <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://before-after.com/blog3/the-diy-lobotomy-book/">DIY Lobotomy</a></strong> terms we call this Ask the Question Early. Often just planting a seed in your mind - the stated problem, a probing question, or in this case, a piece of a song - then puts the subconscious mind in a position to have something to be open around.  If you hadn't asked the question beforehand, then that oppotrunity is lost. Our subconscious mind is so much less encumbered than our rational mind. It’s usually amazingly open, seeing avenues of possibility almost all the time, but the judge in our surface consciousness is the closed-minded SOB. Often the openness is called intuition. All ideas have to come from somewhere. I get a hoot out of learning where they are born and how they come about. You are absolutely right, Simon. There are many aspects of creative thinking. Being open to the “moment of gift“ is only part of it. Follow through is certainly another. I actually have a lot more examples of how songs were born, as I’m compiling material for a book. I hope I don’t mess up on that follow through part.

One example of follow through is with Steven Tyler of Aerosmith on his song “Janies got a gun.” According to Tyler he had the phrase and the musical hook only, for about a year, continually rolling it around in his head, until he saw a news article about child abuse. He then knew why Janie had the gun, and went on to finish the song.

One of the differences between pop song writers and business people is that they can take their time in the process. But the “being open to the gifts” part is exactly the same. For instance, most business people hate focus groups for how they so often kill ideas. When I was in a particularly open-minded state a few years back I sat behind the one-way mirror, watched one of my babies get pulverized, but got a great idea from one of the difficult people, and idea that took the project in a much better direction.

In the Janie case Tyler still had to be open to the seemingly random inspiration. He could have read the article with a less open idea receptor and missed an opportunity to complete a fairly powerful song. In DIY Lobotomy terms we call this Ask the Question Early. Often just planting a seed in your mind - the stated problem, a probing question, or in this case, a piece of a song - then puts the subconscious mind in a position to have something to be open around.  If you hadn’t asked the question beforehand, then that oppotrunity is lost.
Our subconscious mind is so much less encumbered than our rational mind. It’s usually amazingly open, seeing avenues of possibility almost all the time, but the judge in our surface consciousness is the closed-minded SOB. Often the openness is called intuition.

All ideas have to come from somewhere. I get a hoot out of learning where they are born and how they come about.

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by: here be simon http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/04/a/#comment-62 Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:15:52 +0000 http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/04/a/#comment-62 I love this idea, unfortunately I have no tunes to add, but what I did want to add, was that in both cases having been open to an idea both then had the tenacity, drive and talent to craft it into something that worked as a song. And those are the skills that separate the 'I've got a great idea' from the 'I've got a great business, built on an idea'. Being open to ideas will only get you so far. I love this idea, unfortunately I have no tunes to add, but what I did want to add, was that in both cases having been open to an idea both then had the tenacity, drive and talent to craft it into something that worked as a song. And those are the skills that separate the ‘I’ve got a great idea’ from the ‘I’ve got a great business, built on an idea’. Being open to ideas will only get you so far.

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