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		<title>by: Bob</title>
		<link>http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/14/what%e2%80%99s-behind-the-idea/#comment-434</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>//High Jive, does having a grandfather as a cattle rancher qualify as “some other lunatic has heard this explanation before?//

Oh, most definitely. But it also qualifies as &quot;I won't being doing work for PETA anytime soon.&quot;</description>
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<p>Oh, most definitely. But it also qualifies as &#8220;I won&#8217;t being doing work for PETA anytime soon.&#8221;
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		<title>by: Tom Monahan</title>
		<link>http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/14/what%e2%80%99s-behind-the-idea/#comment-419</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>High Jive, does having a grandfather as a cattle rancher qualify as &quot;some other lunatic has heard this explanation before?&quot;  BTW, I have mixed feelings writing another comment, as I don't want to give blog visitors the mistaken impression that there are actually over a dozen separate brilliant ideas being discussed.  Although, High Jive, I had not acknowledged the Velcro contribution.  Thank you.

Maybe there is a lesson in all this discussion (besides how many ways - polite and otherwise - you can say horse excretion), that creativity isn't always pretty.  Or fragrant, for that matter.  Hey, waste 'matter' that's another term!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>High Jive, does having a grandfather as a cattle rancher qualify as &#8220;some other lunatic has heard this explanation before?&#8221;  BTW, I have mixed feelings writing another comment, as I don&#8217;t want to give blog visitors the mistaken impression that there are actually over a dozen separate brilliant ideas being discussed.  Although, High Jive, I had not acknowledged the Velcro contribution.  Thank you.</p>
<p>Maybe there is a lesson in all this discussion (besides how many ways - polite and otherwise - you can say horse excretion), that creativity isn&#8217;t always pretty.  Or fragrant, for that matter.  Hey, waste &#8216;matter&#8217; that&#8217;s another term!
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		<title>by: Bob</title>
		<link>http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/14/what%e2%80%99s-behind-the-idea/#comment-417</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>My grandfather was a cattle rancher. High Jive's analysis of the Elmer's Glue bottle top and a horse's &quot;defecating action&quot; is accurate.

To put it somewhat politely, the fecal matter &quot;spirals&quot; out of the horse's rear end.

And what did the horse get for his contribution? Put inside an Elmer's Glue bottle, I'd suspect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My grandfather was a cattle rancher. High Jive&#8217;s analysis of the Elmer&#8217;s Glue bottle top and a horse&#8217;s &#8220;defecating action&#8221; is accurate.</p>
<p>To put it somewhat politely, the fecal matter &#8220;spirals&#8221; out of the horse&#8217;s rear end.</p>
<p>And what did the horse get for his contribution? Put inside an Elmer&#8217;s Glue bottle, I&#8217;d suspect.
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		<title>by: Tom Monahan</title>
		<link>http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/14/what%e2%80%99s-behind-the-idea/#comment-414</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 06:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm not going to touch that &quot;horse's butthole&quot; line.  Except to say as much as I hope to have a lot of visitor traffic at my blog, I’d be just as pleased if no one is eavesdropping on this particular conversation.  Unless, of course, it's a &quot;lunatic&quot; who can clear up this whole Elmer's Glue story.

And, after all this barn yard toilet talk, I'm just a little disappointed that no one pointed out the connection between the headline of this post &quot;What's behind the idea?&quot; and the visual.  Unless that's where HighJive's hole discussion began.  Make that &lt;em&gt;whole&lt;/em&gt; discussion.

&quot;Giddy up, Elmer, before they make glue otta' ya.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to touch that &#8220;horse&#8217;s butthole&#8221; line.  Except to say as much as I hope to have a lot of visitor traffic at my blog, I’d be just as pleased if no one is eavesdropping on this particular conversation.  Unless, of course, it&#8217;s a &#8220;lunatic&#8221; who can clear up this whole Elmer&#8217;s Glue story.</p>
<p>And, after all this barn yard toilet talk, I&#8217;m just a little disappointed that no one pointed out the connection between the headline of this post &#8220;What&#8217;s behind the idea?&#8221; and the visual.  Unless that&#8217;s where HighJive&#8217;s hole discussion began.  Make that <em>whole</em> discussion.</p>
<p>&#8220;Giddy up, Elmer, before they make glue otta&#8217; ya.&#8221;
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		<title>by: HighJive</title>
		<link>http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/14/what%e2%80%99s-behind-the-idea/#comment-399</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 02:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Seriously, I’ve posted much worse than that. I was actually trying to be polite with the description. But I swear I heard it from a college instructor (although I did attend art school, so maybe the guy was messed up).

Think about the orange caps on Elmer’s Glue bottles. What would have led anyone to invent something so odd—both simple and complex? From what I recall, the inventor was trying to figure a way to control the flow of goopy liquid. While riding in a horse-drawn carriage, he noticed the way horseshit was expelled from a horse’s butthole. I’m not a horse expert, so I can’t describe the action accurately. But whatever he saw, it led him to design the glue bottle cap.

It’s just like the guy who invented Velcro, where something from nature inspires an “original” device.

I have tried to do a google search to confirm this tale, but to no avail. Surely some other lunatic has heard this explanation before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, I’ve posted much worse than that. I was actually trying to be polite with the description. But I swear I heard it from a college instructor (although I did attend art school, so maybe the guy was messed up).</p>
<p>Think about the orange caps on Elmer’s Glue bottles. What would have led anyone to invent something so odd—both simple and complex? From what I recall, the inventor was trying to figure a way to control the flow of goopy liquid. While riding in a horse-drawn carriage, he noticed the way horseshit was expelled from a horse’s butthole. I’m not a horse expert, so I can’t describe the action accurately. But whatever he saw, it led him to design the glue bottle cap.</p>
<p>It’s just like the guy who invented Velcro, where something from nature inspires an “original” device.</p>
<p>I have tried to do a google search to confirm this tale, but to no avail. Surely some other lunatic has heard this explanation before.
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		<title>by: Tom Monahan</title>
		<link>http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/14/what%e2%80%99s-behind-the-idea/#comment-398</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>HighJive, I know your kind.  You just wanted to get the expression &quot;defecating action of a horse&quot; into a blog comment.  But, seriously, folks,... HighJive's comment - &quot;The photo for this post, along with the &lt;em&gt;technological breakthrough&lt;/em&gt; question, made me think of another invention...&quot; - along with Gary's comment above about Stevie Nicks mistakenly hearing &quot;Edge of seventeen&quot; - these comments make me think of a whole 'nother avenue to creativity that I believe is open to us.  I'll call it &quot;the genius of misinterpretation&quot; and put it right there with &quot;accidental genius&quot; which I totally believe in.  I wrote a whole chapter about this in my book.  When we don't intend for something to happen, but we have the open mindedness to go with the unintended action or interpretation.  All it takes is imagination.  Which is usually a good thing. (Aside to camera, eyebrows knitted in puzzlement, &quot;Defecating action of a horse?&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HighJive, I know your kind.  You just wanted to get the expression &#8220;defecating action of a horse&#8221; into a blog comment.  But, seriously, folks,&#8230; HighJive&#8217;s comment - &#8220;The photo for this post, along with the <em>technological breakthrough</em> question, made me think of another invention&#8230;&#8221; - along with Gary&#8217;s comment above about Stevie Nicks mistakenly hearing &#8220;Edge of seventeen&#8221; - these comments make me think of a whole &#8216;nother avenue to creativity that I believe is open to us.  I&#8217;ll call it &#8220;the genius of misinterpretation&#8221; and put it right there with &#8220;accidental genius&#8221; which I totally believe in.  I wrote a whole chapter about this in my book.  When we don&#8217;t intend for something to happen, but we have the open mindedness to go with the unintended action or interpretation.  All it takes is imagination.  Which is usually a good thing. (Aside to camera, eyebrows knitted in puzzlement, &#8220;Defecating action of a horse?&#8221;)
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		<title>by: HighJive</title>
		<link>http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/14/what%e2%80%99s-behind-the-idea/#comment-397</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>This might sound bizarre, but I believe it’s true. The photo for this post, along with the “technological breakthrough” question, made me think of another invention inspired by such a scene. The guy who invented the twist cap on Elmer’s Glue bottles was inspired by viewing the defecating action of a horse while the guy rode in a carriage. Could not find actual reference for this trivia point, but I’m almost certain it’s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This might sound bizarre, but I believe it’s true. The photo for this post, along with the “technological breakthrough” question, made me think of another invention inspired by such a scene. The guy who invented the twist cap on Elmer’s Glue bottles was inspired by viewing the defecating action of a horse while the guy rode in a carriage. Could not find actual reference for this trivia point, but I’m almost certain it’s true.
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		<title>by: Tom Monahan</title>
		<link>http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/14/what%e2%80%99s-behind-the-idea/#comment-344</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I love hearing back stories.  The etymology of ideas, if you will.  Yes, many of these are Houdini Solutions (does &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://eschenck.typepad.com/&quot;&gt;Ernie Schenck&lt;/a&gt; make money every time we use that term?), the box causing us to stretch.  There are also some great examples of simply being open to entertaining ideas that don't track with our preconceptions, but just might be better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love hearing back stories.  The etymology of ideas, if you will.  Yes, many of these are Houdini Solutions (does <a href="http://eschenck.typepad.com/"target="_blank"  onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/eschenck.typepad.com');">Ernie Schenck</a> make money every time we use that term?), the box causing us to stretch.  There are also some great examples of simply being open to entertaining ideas that don&#8217;t track with our preconceptions, but just might be better.
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		<title>by: Kathy</title>
		<link>http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/14/what%e2%80%99s-behind-the-idea/#comment-343</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I love television shows and pop culture. It generates a lot of the springboards for our publications and web site content. 

Recently. we conceived a story idea for our insurance policyholder magazine about the trend in upscale bathrooms and the insurance implications of this.  We were refining the concept (headline/imagery/angle) and connected it with the TV show &quot;Pimp My Ride&quot; -- an extreme makeover for cars.

This led to &quot;Pimp My Potty.&quot; Now we're not going to use &quot;pimp&quot; in our insurance magazine, which led to a suggestion from one of our young fashionistas on staff: &quot;Primp My Potty.&quot; 

Loved it! Moved it along. But, alas, it got shot down by some bigger armor due to the word &quot;potty.&quot; Of course, we were devastated. We went back to the drawing board ... &quot;Beyond Your Beautiful Bath&quot; (ugh) .... &quot;Lush Lav&quot; (the last time I heard &quot;lav&quot; was in grade school) but it led to our new headline &quot;Plush Flush.&quot; Cha-ching.

I still love &quot;Primp My Potty&quot; -- but agree it's a bit out of character for our publication. It did however, serve a further purpose -- giving a boost to the contributions of a younger staffer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love television shows and pop culture. It generates a lot of the springboards for our publications and web site content. </p>
<p>Recently. we conceived a story idea for our insurance policyholder magazine about the trend in upscale bathrooms and the insurance implications of this.  We were refining the concept (headline/imagery/angle) and connected it with the TV show &#8220;Pimp My Ride&#8221; &#8212; an extreme makeover for cars.</p>
<p>This led to &#8220;Pimp My Potty.&#8221; Now we&#8217;re not going to use &#8220;pimp&#8221; in our insurance magazine, which led to a suggestion from one of our young fashionistas on staff: &#8220;Primp My Potty.&#8221; </p>
<p>Loved it! Moved it along. But, alas, it got shot down by some bigger armor due to the word &#8220;potty.&#8221; Of course, we were devastated. We went back to the drawing board &#8230; &#8220;Beyond Your Beautiful Bath&#8221; (ugh) &#8230;. &#8220;Lush Lav&#8221; (the last time I heard &#8220;lav&#8221; was in grade school) but it led to our new headline &#8220;Plush Flush.&#8221; Cha-ching.</p>
<p>I still love &#8220;Primp My Potty&#8221; &#8212; but agree it&#8217;s a bit out of character for our publication. It did however, serve a further purpose &#8212; giving a boost to the contributions of a younger staffer.
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		<title>by: Bob</title>
		<link>http://before-after.com/blog3/2006/12/14/what%e2%80%99s-behind-the-idea/#comment-342</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Scottish Rite Children's Hospital in Atlanta had a long-running campaign featuring childlike crayon drawings. It was pretty standard &quot;children's hospital&quot; stuff, not horrible but not particularly memorable either.

My partner at the time, Jeff Griffith, and I were charged with coming up with a new campaign. The one caveat was that it HAD to incorporate children's crayon drawings (thus the &quot;Houdini Solution&quot; situation).

We had little time, and that demand wasn't easy to get past. But one day I was just thumbing through an old Ibid stock photo book, and came across a page that had been partially torn out (damn art directors). It was of a little girl with a face that could melt Bill Belichick's heart.  But the borrom of the page, where her legs would have been, was ripped out.

One of the medical conditions we were suppossed to address was a spinal problem that eventually leads to a kid's inability to walk.

Add a crayon drawing of her bottom torso and legs under that half-photo (I was elected because my drawing ability was deemed most childlike), and the beginning of a very successful campaign was underway.

Yeah, it won a lot of awards. But what I'm most proud of is that magazines and newspapers were so enthralled with the ads, they offered to run them for free.

To this day, the &quot;Sometimes I dream that I can walk&quot; ad is framed and hanging in the hospital.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scottish Rite Children&#8217;s Hospital in Atlanta had a long-running campaign featuring childlike crayon drawings. It was pretty standard &#8220;children&#8217;s hospital&#8221; stuff, not horrible but not particularly memorable either.</p>
<p>My partner at the time, Jeff Griffith, and I were charged with coming up with a new campaign. The one caveat was that it HAD to incorporate children&#8217;s crayon drawings (thus the &#8220;Houdini Solution&#8221; situation).</p>
<p>We had little time, and that demand wasn&#8217;t easy to get past. But one day I was just thumbing through an old Ibid stock photo book, and came across a page that had been partially torn out (damn art directors). It was of a little girl with a face that could melt Bill Belichick&#8217;s heart.  But the borrom of the page, where her legs would have been, was ripped out.</p>
<p>One of the medical conditions we were suppossed to address was a spinal problem that eventually leads to a kid&#8217;s inability to walk.</p>
<p>Add a crayon drawing of her bottom torso and legs under that half-photo (I was elected because my drawing ability was deemed most childlike), and the beginning of a very successful campaign was underway.</p>
<p>Yeah, it won a lot of awards. But what I&#8217;m most proud of is that magazines and newspapers were so enthralled with the ads, they offered to run them for free.</p>
<p>To this day, the &#8220;Sometimes I dream that I can walk&#8221; ad is framed and hanging in the hospital.
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