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		<title>by: John</title>
		<link>http://before-after.com/blog3/2007/02/03/toast-when-creativity-goes-too-far/#comment-2004</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 02:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi!

The Toast is a fun exercise. It is a good alternative to brainstormimg. I am sure using the Toast as a basis, more variations can be developed to encourage creative solutions to problems. Thanks for sharing the exercise.</description>
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<p>The Toast is a fun exercise. It is a good alternative to brainstormimg. I am sure using the Toast as a basis, more variations can be developed to encourage creative solutions to problems. Thanks for sharing the exercise.
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		<title>by: Tom Monahan</title>
		<link>http://before-after.com/blog3/2007/02/03/toast-when-creativity-goes-too-far/#comment-917</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 17:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Exactly!</description>
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		<title>by: Homer</title>
		<link>http://before-after.com/blog3/2007/02/03/toast-when-creativity-goes-too-far/#comment-916</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 17:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I get this exercise.  You take the image on the toast and put it somewhere else to make it even more freaky, correct?

&lt;img src=&quot;http://before-after.com/images/monahan_exercise.jpg&quot; /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get this exercise.  You take the image on the toast and put it somewhere else to make it even more freaky, correct?</p>
<p><img src="http://before-after.com/images/monahan_exercise.jpg" />
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		<title>by: Tom Monahan</title>
		<link>http://before-after.com/blog3/2007/02/03/toast-when-creativity-goes-too-far/#comment-908</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 23:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Jason, thanks for bringing up this angle on the subject.  But don’t get me started on advertising people creating work only to win awards.  (Too late.) I know you’re not saying all ad people do work &lt;em&gt;exclusively&lt;/em&gt; to impress judges, nor are you defending it.  You’re making an observation that I believe is true.  But I feel there is a very fine line, here.  If we go over it, we simply go from saint to sinner.

Actually, I believe in most cases the magic of the best advertising does the same thing for consumers as it does for award juries.  I just think the “that’s pretty neat” reaction for the target audience, when the ad creators are playing fair, leads to business results; improved brand preference or actual sales.

Re awards, ad people can’t win with me.  If you think awards &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; important, shame on you.  If you think they &lt;em&gt;are not&lt;/em&gt; important, shame on you. I want you to be motivated by what ever it takes to get you inspired.  If that’s recognition, fine.  Because doing work that is truly different; to stand out, get remembered and elicit action takes a ton of creativeness.  So I want you juiced.  I just don’t want you to let your priorities get out of order.

As for my little toast exercise, here the creative person who went over the line had to eat something pretty disgusting.  In real life going over the creative line can be anything from having actors in commercials overact (not egregious, but still not good) to doing stuff that just plain hurts business or careers, directly or otherwise.  So what are the consequences for advertising creatives who create irresponsibly - from over-the-top talent direction to developing work solely to win awards?  They will limit their career path, that's what.  They won’t get hired by the top creative directors, to create for legitimate brands, to do work that actually makes a difference.  So they’ll keep creating gratuitous work for judges.  I think I’d rather eat road kill on toast.

[To blog readers who aren’t in advertising, don’t think ad people are entirely unaccountable.  There’s actually much good that comes from their desire to accumulate shiny little trophies.  From my experience in other fields (a good portion of my work these days) maybe there should be something like ad awards to bring out the creative juice in these industries.  Because when the creators play fair, the extra motivation actually can make the ideas better, which can drive business.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, thanks for bringing up this angle on the subject.  But don’t get me started on advertising people creating work only to win awards.  (Too late.) I know you’re not saying all ad people do work <em>exclusively</em> to impress judges, nor are you defending it.  You’re making an observation that I believe is true.  But I feel there is a very fine line, here.  If we go over it, we simply go from saint to sinner.</p>
<p>Actually, I believe in most cases the magic of the best advertising does the same thing for consumers as it does for award juries.  I just think the “that’s pretty neat” reaction for the target audience, when the ad creators are playing fair, leads to business results; improved brand preference or actual sales.</p>
<p>Re awards, ad people can’t win with me.  If you think awards <em>are</em> important, shame on you.  If you think they <em>are not</em> important, shame on you. I want you to be motivated by what ever it takes to get you inspired.  If that’s recognition, fine.  Because doing work that is truly different; to stand out, get remembered and elicit action takes a ton of creativeness.  So I want you juiced.  I just don’t want you to let your priorities get out of order.</p>
<p>As for my little toast exercise, here the creative person who went over the line had to eat something pretty disgusting.  In real life going over the creative line can be anything from having actors in commercials overact (not egregious, but still not good) to doing stuff that just plain hurts business or careers, directly or otherwise.  So what are the consequences for advertising creatives who create irresponsibly - from over-the-top talent direction to developing work solely to win awards?  They will limit their career path, that&#8217;s what.  They won’t get hired by the top creative directors, to create for legitimate brands, to do work that actually makes a difference.  So they’ll keep creating gratuitous work for judges.  I think I’d rather eat road kill on toast.</p>
<p>[To blog readers who aren’t in advertising, don’t think ad people are entirely unaccountable.  There’s actually much good that comes from their desire to accumulate shiny little trophies.  From my experience in other fields (a good portion of my work these days) maybe there should be something like ad awards to bring out the creative juice in these industries.  Because when the creators play fair, the extra motivation actually can make the ideas better, which can drive business.]
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		<title>by: jason rose</title>
		<link>http://before-after.com/blog3/2007/02/03/toast-when-creativity-goes-too-far/#comment-906</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 22:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://before-after.com/blog3/2007/02/03/toast-when-creativity-goes-too-far/#comment-906</guid>
					<description>Clever exercise. The problem is we all (advertising people) tend to write for award juries nowadays who don't necessarily apply the same scruples that underpin this exercise. How often do you think judges really sit back and consider the execution in the context of the brand and its target audience? Moreover, when it comes to global award shows, how many judges even know the brand or its target audience? I reckon their analysis goes about as deep as saying, &quot;That's pretty neat!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clever exercise. The problem is we all (advertising people) tend to write for award juries nowadays who don&#8217;t necessarily apply the same scruples that underpin this exercise. How often do you think judges really sit back and consider the execution in the context of the brand and its target audience? Moreover, when it comes to global award shows, how many judges even know the brand or its target audience? I reckon their analysis goes about as deep as saying, &#8220;That&#8217;s pretty neat!&#8221;
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